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Clarke's Beach mayor questions land purchase

 Clarke's Beach  Mayor  Betty Moores expressed concern recentlyl about a  land   purchase  by the town. Photo by Terry Roberts/The Compass

Clarke's Beach Mayor Betty Moores expressed concern recentlyl about a land purchase by the town.

Published on August 28, 2012
Published on August 28, 2012
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Town to spend $40,000 on waterfront lot

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The Compass , Beach town council

Editor's note: the following article was also published in the Aug. 21, 2012 print edition of The Compass.

 

In a move that has raised eyebrows in some circles, the Clarke's Beach town council voted recently to approve the spending of $40,000 for the purchase of a high-profile piece of land on the waterfront, adjacent to the cenotaph and across the street from the municipal building.

The vote took place during a hastily called meeting on Monday, Aug. 6 - the town's civic holiday.

The town's longtime clerk, Joan Wilcox, was not in attendance to record the minutes. Mayor Betty Moore and Coun. David Moore were also absent, since they were attending civic holiday celebrations organized by the town's recreation commission. Both say they received email notification of the meeting, but didn't attend because of the short notice, and the fact it was a civic holiday.

"They didn't want me there because they knew I didn't support it," Coun. Moore later told The Compass.

The decision was supported at the 40-minute special meeting by Deputy Mayor Kevin Hussey and councillors Roland Andrews, Garry Bendell, Eldon Snow and Winston Vokey, though it came in for some criticism during council's regular public meeting on Aug. 13.

Mayor Moore questioned the price being paid for the land, saying she was "surprised and shocked" by the amount.

"$40,000 is not a small piece of change for this town," she said.

According to the town's assessment role, the land is being taxed based on an assessed value of $5,700.

Mayor Moore was also critical of the timing and urgency of the meeting, and wondered why it was so important to hold the meeting on a civic holiday.

Accepted first offer

It's also been learned that council did not engage a real estate professional to carry out an appraisal of the property, which would have cost approximately $400, and that it accepted the first offer made by the seller.

Mayor Moore also raised concerns about the town's plans for the property. According to the minutes of the special meeting, some members of council see the land - located at 164-168 Conception Bay Highway with some 150 feet of frontage - being used for "tourism and possible recreation purposes."

One of the possibilities include relocating the former train station to the site and converting it into a museum. The station is currently located at the intersection of Main Street and Station Road, and has fallen into disrepair over the years. There's been plenty of debate about what should become of the structure.

Supporters of the purchase say there were two reasons for the expenditure: to explore the possibility of relocating the station to the site, and to have full control over how the land is developed, since it is next to the cenotaph.

But Mayor Moore and Coun. Moore - no relation - both questioned how much such a development would cost, where the money would come from, and whether provincial government authorities would even sanction such a project becuase of the property's proximity to Conception Bay Highway, which is a provincial road.

Coun. Moore described the purchase as a "bad decision."

Good value

Coun. Andrews is a leading advocate for the land acquisition. He defended the price, saying it was "good value," since it also includes a large concrete floor left over from the building - known to many as the Gold Gallery - that was destroyed by fire several years ago.

Andrews said the town will explore various funding options to help cover the cost of relocating and renovating the train station.

When asked if such a development might be nixed by the province because of the location, Andrews noted, "that's a probability," though he said there are no restrictions that he's aware of.

And why was it necessary to hold a special meeting? "The owner wanted a reply," Andrews stated.

Andrews said he was not aware that it was a civic holiday on Aug. 6, and apologized to Mayor Moore at the Aug. 13 meeting for the late notification.

"There was nothing underhanded. No preconceived notions," said Andrews.

He said the town is acquiring the property for an "excellent price," and noted it was listed for $25,000 "a couple of years ago."

Andrews emphasized several times the land purchase is "good news" and said many residents are keen to have the town's history and heritage displayed in a more organized, prominent way.

Mayor Moore suggested later that the money might be better spent upgrading the town's family park, which has fallen into disrepair in recent years.

Meanwhile, a real estate agent contacted by The Compass expressed surprise the town did not have the land appraised, but is familiar with land values in the area and described $40,000 as a "decent value for the property."

The agent, who asked not to be identified, said the assessed value of the property can be misleading, since the assessment was likely at least four years old, and property values have increased significantly in that time.

editor@cbncompass.ca

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    Don II
    - September 7, 2012 at 16:36:00

    To "Cupids Resident" from "Don II" do you have any well documented opinions or facts to contribute to this discussion? I am not interested in knowing who you are for the purposes of this discussion. Trying to bait me with a taunt like "no guts no glory" is a bit juvenile don't you think? Your remarks are a classic example of the pot calling the kettle copper. Let's try to keep this discussion civil, respectful, intelligent and focused on the issue being discussed.

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    Cupids Resident
    - September 7, 2012 at 00:07:29

    Show some guts Don ll---reveal yourself. No 'Guts' no 'Glory'!!!!!!!!!

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    Don II
    - September 4, 2012 at 13:00:18

    It appears that Christine Burry should have identified herself as being a member of the Town of Cupids Council. I am informed by concerned citizens and boat owners that the Town of Cupids allowed the unauthorized construction and operation of a commercial marina on Crown land at Pointe Beach in Cupids and permitted the charging of fees to local and visiting boat owners without Government approval and without a Crown Land Grant, Lease or License for the purpose of operating a commercial marina. Who used the "forked tongue" in that case I wonder? It also appears that the Mayor of the Town of Cupids wrote to several land owners in Cupids and advised them that the Town of Cupids is pursuing plans to expropriate privately owned waterfront land at Salt Water Pond in order to enlarge the unauthorized commercial marina at Pointe Beach. I have serious concerns about the manner in which some Town Councils operate. I referred to both the Town of Clarke's Beach and the Town of Cupids in my comments because the two Town Councils appear to be participating in questionable activities which should be scrutinized by the media, the public and investigated by the Department of Municipal Affairs. It appears that some Town Councils consider their election as unrestricted approval to do whatever they want regardless of the cost to the tax payers or regardless of the damage they do to other peoples rights! The time has come for Premier Dunderdale to review the organization and powers of Municipal Councils. Amendments to The Municipalities Act should be considered and implemented in order to diminish or remove the abuse of power problems caused by local cliques, special interest groups and family run towns who obtain power through Town Councils and abuse it on a regular basis to trample other people rights and to further their own agenda at tax payer expense.

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    christine burry
    - September 1, 2012 at 12:40:30

    This so called "Don ll should stick to one subject. He always seems to start out with the business of the Town of Clarke's Beach and swings to his 'forked tongue' to his real target the Town of Cupids. If he had any real guts he would face the town in person and not behind an assumed name.

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    Duffy
    - September 1, 2012 at 11:21:00

    Good decision and excellent purchase. Waerfront property easily goes for $40,000 to $65,000 per building lot. The ole timers need to get thier heads out of the sand - this is not 1952.

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      Fred from Brigus
      - September 4, 2012 at 09:51:59

      You are right Duffy this is not 1952 but 2012. This is not a good decision. If this property was worth $40,000.00 it would have been sold a long time ago bought by some investor to generate income not to burden the taxpayers. The alleged reason to purchase this property was to preserve the history of Clarkes Beach. Well Clarkes Beach has no history it was destroyedyears ago. At one time on the waterfront there was the government wharf, Fred Ralphs warehouse,the old post office,another small store used by Eddie Reid as a TV repair shop and later as a fish and chip store,Fred Nickles warehouse, Fred Snows warehouse and Abe French"s warehouse. All long gone and I doubt that any of these owners legally owned the land these structures sat on. This site is really no different and I would assume that Abe French basically squated on this piece of property. If the Town Council were to do due diligence they could probably pick up this property for FREE.

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    Fred from Brigus
    - September 1, 2012 at 06:33:09

    That this property could be used as a tourist site as it already has an existing concrete floor I would suggest that the Town Council erect a WHITE ELEPHANT on it so that all the tourists could see the waste of the hard working taxpayers money. One wonders.......These 5 councilors did not know it was a civic holiday?. The seller could not wait one more day for a response to his offer after all it was a civic holiday ?. Would council have held an emergency on a Sunday had the offer come in on a Saturday ?. Since the town clerk was absent from the meeting why was the the minutes of the meeting not recorded anyway and the clerk could have transcribed it upon her return Something stinks about this transaction. This is a divisive town council. Time too boot these misfits from office.

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    Don II
    - August 30, 2012 at 12:33:02

    Mayor Moore is right. Why did the Town Council of Clarke's Beach meet without the Town Clerk and Mayor being present? The expenditure of $40,000 for a piece of waterfront land for proposed recreational and tourism projects sounds like the code word for an excuse to apply for another Government Grant. Speaking of paying big dollars for waterfront land, it appears that the Town of Cupids is planning to purchase or expropriate 10 or 12 privately owned waterfront properties at Salt Water Pond to enable the expansion and improvement of a Commercial Marina which has been operating from Pointe Beach without Government approval since 2010. At at least $40,000 each, the cost of buying or expropriating 10 or 12 waterfront properties in Cupids will add a big bill to the Town of Cupids debt load or require another Government Grant. Who wants a Commercial Marina in Cupids anyway? For decades, local boat owners moored their boats for free in Salt Water Pond. Somebody on the Town Council in Cupids wants to expand and operate a Commercial Marina. At what cost to the Town and to boat owners? Over the past several years about $15 Million tax payer dollars has been pumped into Cupids but the roads are still in very bad shape, the water and sewer system is substandard and serves only about one third of the homes and the Town of Cupids is still in debt. There appears to be no real oversight or control on the activities of these small Town Councils and no justification of the reasons why they spend tax payers money on questionable and likely unfeasible projects is required!

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